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the board. it's revenue neutral. we can't tell you how it's revenue neutral, because as paul ryan said, it will take too long. >> will obama go after him, like kennedy did in '94? he'll say, mr. governor, that's what people want. >> we can't talk about the president's strategy. he has to stay cool. if jim lehrer doesn't do it, if the moderator doesn't do, it then the president may have to step in, depending on how romney performs. but if romney doesn't really make the case strongly, the president doesn't necessarily have to jump on him. >> he can say at the end he didn't answer. >> he can say at the end he didn't answer the question. >> let lehrer try it. >> but i think the obama campaign is leery of being -- they need to be a little aggressive. they need to take -- >> what's the best defense? >> good offense. >> i would recommend the president. why did the cavalry leave the fort to fight the indians? do you know why? >> why. >> they're cavalry. thank you. >>> coming up, we have a new scoreboard. not like in the old days but spinners will be there. let's watch the power of the tweeter,
at ease with the polls. cue paul ryan moments ago. here he is. >> are you troubled by the wisconsin polls? and they're just polls and you always remind me of that. for a while it looked like you could take that state. just a snapshot of the moment but trailing further in that state. >> i don't actually believe the validity of that poll. i won't get into all the methodologies of it. >> which would he believe in? >> one that has him ahead. that's the one he would believe in. the reality is there's a serious thing about polling in that it does matter what your sample is and it matters the sample size and it also matters the weighting, whether you have how many more democrats than republicans. but underlying the problem for mitt romney is that republican voter identification is dropping, so the polls do have to reflect a weighting that says that there are fewer republicans than there are democrats and there are more independents. it's because there's less identification with the republican party in the country. so if the polls are trending away from mitt romney, it's two things. number one, h
in defense cuts that his running mate paul ryan voted for, he implied that would hurt suicide prevention programs for veterans even though the v.a. would be exempt from that, so i'm not sure he even understood what it was he was talking about. but at least he tried. at least veterans got a mention from him. even if it didn't make sense in policy terms. you do know that defense and veterans are two different -- at some point it should be possible with 40 days left to say veterans have to be more than just an applause line. right? you don't just get to use them for a photo op like the decommissioned battleship you used as a backdrop when you introduced paul ryan inexplicably in front of a battleship, another time when you didn't mention the war. even if you're not willing to talk about the war we are in that you would be taking over, veterans are not a hypothetical construct. the way they're treated is not an esoteric consequence of how we feel about them as a nation or how much military spending we have which is how mitt romney described it today. 40 days out from the election with the is
to understand where we actually stand. >> paul ryan is in new hampshire today. the republican vice presidential nominee will hold a rally in the city of derry in just a few hours. meanwhile, vice president biden is in the battleground state of florida. he's going to attend a campaign event in fort myers this morning. on friday he met with seniors at a retirement village in boca raton. >> governor romney's plan goes into effect it can mean that everyone, every one of you, would be paying more on -- taxes on your social security. >> michelle obama is encouraging young voters to get to the polls. like right now. the first lady spoke to college students in iowa friday, urging them to go into nearby early voting booths to cast their ballots. >> you got a whole month to make it happen. a whole month to vote! as i tell my children, don't procrastinate. no procrastination. make it happen. do it today. >> joining me now, political reporter for "the washington post" felicia somnez and white house correspondent for the hill, amy barnes. good morning. >> good morning. >> so, amy, i'm going to start with yo
. paul ryan was out in iowa, iowa is a state having some early voting, according to our inbed out there, paul ryan wasn't making the same exhortations to the republicans in his audience to get them to go vote early. you're seeing two strategies by the obama and romney campaigns. >> what else do we learn from the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll in terms of their attitudes towards the debate? >> just on the debate front, as i was kind of saying, bill mcinturf had a conference call with us and saying -- i can't give away the data but unless there is something extraordinary -- >> point out bill is the republican half of the peter hart/mcinturf team, they work for nbc news. >> he was looking at the data and remarkable how stable it is. unless there's something really ka the ta chris mick or jarring it's going to be hard to knock these numbers out of what we've seen. it will be interesting to see the headline of what the split is between president obama and mitt romney. but bill mcinturf the republican pollster was saying it's going to have to have some kind of jolt to make the race not a
in that group because of these words. >> paul ryan was given a chance to reach out to the 47% today in a question that he was asked on the campaign trail by a voter who asked about the 47%. ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get a good paycheck so then they're good taxpayers. this is the point that mitt and i have been trying to make. and sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. >> sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. jonathan, he sure didn't make it the right way. he says about the 47%, let's help them get jobs. so he thinks the 85-year-old widow who does not
a big deal out of it. web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will be new things to talk about, new issues to digest, again, not a great moment for joe biden and clearly one the white house would have rather he not have said. i just don't know that, you know, in two weeks time we're talking about it. >> all right. we'll see what -- whether there's a new gaffe or two or three to replace that one tonight. thank you very much. see you later. joining me in denver, stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election effort. where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see
. >> and then the "huffington post" released what they consider their own bombshell tape, showing paul ryan at what his campaign says was on open forum, this was just last year, 2011. ryan's remarks are now being compared to romney's 47% comment. >> the good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> and republicans are seizing on what vice president joe biden said at a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how they can justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, i
the video, it's become part of paul ryan's stump speech. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being burieded by regulatio regulations, taxes, by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> major, does joe biden's statement, this video, do either play into the debate tonight? >> i don't think the video is going to play into the debate. you look at what pollsters find from surveying voters, they want to nope, especially tonight, what is your characterization of president obama, what's you've done for four years, mitt romney and what are you going to do going forward. i do not expect this to be about a video from 2007. i think if romney were to do that, it would be a strategic mistake. as for paul ryan, this has been part of a romney campaign tendency. everything from the convention, acutely so, maybe a bit before that. to take whatever sound bite of the day is and to build a narrative around that. that doesn'
of a detailed alternative that people can get their arms around. even at a paul ryan event this morning, a woman, a supporter got up in the crowd and said where are the details, what are you guys actually going to do? forget about his opponents' demanding it, his supporters are demanding it, saying give us something to vote for. >> ron, being perfectly hoppest, and you have already disclosed you helped prepare governor romney in 2008, are you not disappointed that he hasn't been more specific and more detailed, honestly? >> no, honestly i'm not. >> you're not? >> i'm not dispointed. it's about a vision for the kukt. if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forwa
's not an effective message. on the contrary, if you look at the paul ryan tape which, again, i don't think is going to have a big impact on this election but it does have echoes of romney's comes about the 47% which have in fact, been devastating to the romney campaign, many more voters, 45%, have a negative view of those comments than the 23% who take a positive view of it. so i think this conservative alternate universe has been a damaging thing for the romney campaign. >> one of the things we see in the alternate universe, even to this day lots of them still think that obama is muslim, one of the things we see in this tape is a man talking about his relationship with christ in a very clear, direct and passionate way. so that should destroy that name. we also see a man giving a rather mild critique of the government's horrific response to katrina, which many other people have given. we also see an attempt to use reverend wright to attack the president, which has failed before, but because it's failed before doesn't mean we shouldn't try it once again. stepping back, we see hannity and tucker carl
will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. service member. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel has the details. >> reporter: there has been another insider attack, the so-called green on blue attack, when afghan troops attack and kill their american partners. so far, this year, t
cost of the republican bubble, which i am more and more convinced -- it goes by the name of paul ryan. i think if you look at the polling actually, naming paul ryan to the ticket was a big mistake. let's look at some of the numbers in ohio and florida that show that right after we take this break. st word was... [ to the tune of "lullaby and good night" ] ♪ af-lac ♪ aflac [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. [ yawning sound ] so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics, put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited
loss and trying to prefight the battle over the reason that it happened. let's not forget. paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lesson said about the morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have
during which president obama was in the white house while campaigning in iowa. paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe biden. the middle class has been buried the last four years which is why we need a change in november, #can'tafford4more. >>> later that today in asheville, north carolina vice president biden clarified that the middle class was buried by the policies that romney and ryan supported. see if you're convinced by that recovery. >>> also yesterday, a video was relesioned by the daily caller, featuring then senator barack obama speaking to a group of african-american religious leaders in 2007. they are billing the video as a bombshell
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obama. the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are saying it's the worst fog they've seen in a long time throughout this region. it will lift by 9:00 or 10:00 a.m. so the heart of it is right now. we will see a few showers during the day but not like yesterday where it really was a rainout in a few spots. temperatures will be very warm and humid. we are going to see a chance of showers in new york city as we go through thursday and then again over the weekend. it's over the weekend that the temperatures drop on the east coast including washington, d.c., and boston with highs in the 50s and 60s. right now all that cool air is located in montana. i'm showin
romney needs. the convenient yesterday with paul ryan where they were together for the first time since the convention, for the second time since the convention was really flat. here we have a big crowd but some are comparing it to a primary sized crowd, not necessarily a general election sized crowd. president obama will be at the university campus where there will no doubt be thousands if not tens of thousands. the governor here gave -- as he was giving an introduction where he talked about how things are getting better in ohio. of course, they are. the unemployment rate is about 7.2% below the national average. so that's part of the headwind romney is fighting in this state. g but, again, this is the first of three events. it's all about the economy. yesterday he made an interesting pitch to the crowd saying, i need you to go out and tuque to obama. vote for me this time. so they're really trying to target those voters. as i heard you say earlier, on the press plane and in the crowd, the romney spinners are pushing back on the polls. they insist they're within the margin of error but
to try and get infrastructure funding. and the republicans simply held it up. i mean, paul ryan was right in the center of it. and now you're going to make him vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike rowe is up there talking about the very people that mitt romney was dissing behind closed doors at that fund-raiser. he can't say it about them, but maybe this guy can. maybe i'll hand the microphone to this guy, this guy named mike rowe, who wears a workman's hat and a sweatshirt and goes around and has pretty good visibility, maybe he can get up there and say that i really do care about these folks. i find this of somewhat of a desperate move, the choreography of all of this. >> well, it's really based, ed, on the idea that t
. governor romney and congressman paul ryan are running like their republican predecessors on the promise of tax cuts. does cutting taxes fuel economic growth? new york sometimes david leonhardt explains why the good times may not necessarily roll next on "now." bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! thanks. what do we do when something really wants to be
the ideology that the republican party embraced post-2008, which is poisonous to an election. paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're just finding out that's not enough, but the alternative is worse. >> the alternative is no real alternative because i don't know any republican that toed the far right line in the primaries would have got through the primaries. i looked at some of the positions mitt romney was forced to take. he had to say he would vote no on a 10-1 spending deal. he talked about self-deport addition as an immigration solution. he embraced the paul ryan budget calling it marvelous and medicare vouchers and personhood which is so extreme it failed on the ballot in mississippi, arguably the most pro-life state in the country. one that hurt him in ohio is his emb
schultz. if we get that cued up, let me know and we'll cut to it. i want to play paul ryan. he did a live interview with bloomberg this morning. here is what he had to say about what he expects to see from president obama. >> president is not telling the truth about what we are proposing. he can't run his record so he has to distort mitt romney's record. he has to divide the country to distract the country to win by default. >> here is what you hear over and over again, distort the record. governor romney saying in a prior interview with "meet the press," the president wouldn't be truthful. what is your response to the romney campaign seeing mitt romney, seeing paul ryan predicting the president to be untruthful? >> that is an interesting talking point coming from candidates whose convention was based on a tripod of lies, talking about a welfare reform attack president clinton called false in the architect of welfare reform called false. blaming the president for the closure of a gm plant that was slated for closure during the previous administration. here are the facts. the $5 trillion t
" is reporting that aides to romney say the republican candidate and running mate paul ryan will be campaigning together more often in the coming weeks, according to the report. the move underscores concerns that mr. romney is not generating enough excitement on his own and needs mr. ryan to fire up supporters that may have been evident during a campaign stop yesterday outside dayton. >> wow! that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan! isn't that something? wait a second. wait a second. romney, ryan! romney, ryan! romney, ryan! there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> oh. sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring up newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it doesn't even matter. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god? >> it's not going to work. >> pray for our sinners in thy hour of peace. >> it's not going to work. it's too late for that. >> it seems to me -- except what would happen, it's the end of "godfather 2," i'm fredo on the back of the boat about to get it in the back of my head. >> how do you fix t
releases on that comment. paul ryan reacted to it. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> biden clarified his remarks saying, quote, the middle class was buried by policies that romney and ryan supported. the romney campaign tries to make the stick calling a conference call and then holding a press conference in denver this morning. no doubt we'll hear more about the comments tonight from romney as he tries to draw attention away from his own 47% remark. there is a quick look at tonight's format. there are no opening statements. the president will answer the opening questions. the debate will be divided into six 15-minute segments. the president and romney will each get two minutes to answer an initial question in each topic area but then timing will be left to the moderator's discretion. since obama won a coin toss he won the choice and romney got the choice of if he wants the first or second closing state
out to the nfl playing fields. that was after his running mate, paul ryan, also of wisconsin, used the monday night football debacle as a convenient political metaphor. >> did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >>> all of the pressure and not necessarily from politicians helped bring about a deal between the nfl and the referee's union late wednesday night. the real refs got a standing ovation before thursday night's browns/ravens game in baltimore. here is what makes that scene hilarious. ask any sports fan, player or coach, the least popular man or woman on the field is the one holding the wlislhistle. people hate referees. that is partly as a function. despite the striped uniforms, they are meant to be invisible. we only notice them when they mess up or as it seems when they are gone and not there doing their jobs as professionals. allow me a metaphor of my own. to me, this is part of the labor image we a
was able to explain that in a way that paul ryan or, you know, a lot of other conservatives could have explained it in two or three seconds. yes, i did that in massachusetts, but let me tell you something. what works in massachusetts doesn't work in michigan, doesn't work in mississippi, doesn't work in minnesota. we've got 50 different states, and let's have experimentation. let's have competition. let's have legislative laboratories and see what suits each state's residents the best. he missed that. he could have explained that away in january in iowa and could have been talking about this bill for the past eight, nine months in an excited, positive way. another thing, steve ratner, i want to go to you on this specifically because you talked -- yesterday we talked to governor ed rendell who said that he was so impressed with mitt romney when he went up to massachusetts. and mitt romney was explaining to him all the details of this health care plan and all the great things that it did for the residents, for the people of massachusetts. and he sat there going man, this guy is so impres
-election for the president, if we postulate that hypothetical, then they say, well, the only problem was paul ryan should have been first on the ticket, should have been more conservative, and you know that argument. i think if it's a blowout and these are all ifs, you have a goldwater-type reassessment, then, yes, a, you have a desire to manufacture, and, b, you have new people in the party like a ted cruz that the president can go out and talk to and say let's be reasonable. you're a tea party guy, but let's do something that people like your parents can have a path to citizenship and -- >> that's a good idea. i'm for that. thank you, gentlemen. andrew sullivan, amazing piece. i will read it several times. >> thank you. >> ari melber, thank you. >>> up next, it took a wild ending to last night's packers/seahawks game to get wisconsin governor scott walker to finally side with union workers. that's next in the "sideshow." yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it e
romney, paul ryan, we're all pro union all of a sudden. >> everybody's in favor of the union. >> everybody's in favor of the union. >> don't you think that roger goodell and the owners and everyone else at this point, you know, have to -- have to cave in and do something? >> sure. >> about the replacement refs before we go through another weekend like that? >> i don't know if they can get them in even if they negotiated a settlement today. i don't know if the regular nfl refs could get back for this weekend. i think they've got to make a deal and they can get some concessions i'm sure from the union but they've got to make a deal quickly and roger goodell is really in the hot seat and this is a time when he has to lead the owners, not follow the owners. >> this is a game that's already been in some fire for injuries to players, for roughness, things like that. they don't need another problem. they better settle. >> i agree with vin. >> talking to the players rep in a moment coming up. and thanks to both of you and if you have nothing to do this weekend we may put you on the f
with congressman paul ryan's event in ohio. we have heard several messages over the last week of the republican campaign. what do we expect to hear today? >> reporter: thomas, good day to you. congressman ryan just landed here on the way to the event. we are at walker manufacturing making lawn mowers and we think the message is one governor romney brought here two days ago is that the economy cannot stand another four years of the president's failed economic policies and they're out here in the mountain west and the great plains and hear congressman ryan talk about the keystone pipeline and focusing on the country's national resources, bringing energy jobs online and putting people back to work and expecting the president to hit him on other things. >> one thing, though, ron, the obama campaign said, though, if romney loses ohio it is likely game over. is there a sense that the republican campaign is feeling that pressure? >> reporter: yeah. i think they're acknowledging they're behind. they don't believe it's game over and no republican president ever has gotten to the white house without taki
't like paul ryan. so you look at all the recent polls, you have four of them. you have reuters, gallup, bloomberg and fox show the president leading. which doesn't mitt romney embrace these polls and acknowledge them? say, this is how it is right now. we're going to change them? >> i think internally they probably are doing a lot of that and trying to figure out how they can shift the narrative, but i think that article is exactly right. yes, mitt romney has been a poor candidate. yes, his comments about the 47% have been truly devastating to this race. i think his problems go way back. they do go to a self-delusion the gop has about the president. that he's awful and a toaster oven could beat him in an election. it's not true. the american people like the president. mitt romney was forced to move so far to the right in the gop primary it's hard to come back to a sensible, mainstream view and his embrace of paul ryan on the ticket just made that that much harder. >> if you're in the wilderness for years and you're not winning and we have 8% unemployment and we should win this thing and
in trouble in ohio he's really in trouble in florida. he cannot lose both those states. and paul ryan brought nothing to the ticket except fear. we have a situation where white seniors are afraid of medicare, their message that we're going to protect it did not get through, seniors saw through that. and so i don't -- we can obsess about the smaller states and it's really tight in nevada but in the end ohio and florida if he can't win those he can't win. >> let's talk about fear for a second because -- i'll bring you back in, jeff. there was a great screen shot still from the newest romney ad that says literally emblazoned across a person's face your job is in danger. but the question jeff, does that message compute to people that things are bad and thus you're going to vote for the other guy at this point? >> it's really a question of which message is really resonating and in ohio and a lot of these states. in ohio particularly the obama team has pushed the auto rescue, there are a lot of jobs in ohio that were saved by that, and they see that as one of the reasons he's doing so well. the rom
state of paul ryan, who is also on the republican ticket. the gamble that the republicans made was that he would give them a bump here in the upper midwest, and that has not happened. it's not because paul ryan fails to connect with people or people don't know who mitt romney is. i think we are witnessing a full-scale swing in the pendulum. here in wisconsin scott walker survived the recall effort, but you have tammy baldwin pulling ahead of tommy thompson, a double-digit swing from where he was. she used to be trailing after the democratic convention. president obama is pulling ahead in the upper midwest. i think this may be less about -- this is only mitt romney, and mitt has to be mitt and it's all about mitt. this runs deeper than that. this is a sort of recentering of the american electorate we're witnessing. >> let's go back to the political article. it isn't the chair or the ho-hum convention or the looked video or stewart stevens or the improving economy or media bias or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. is it that simple? is the problem at the end of the day that it
. and then i think there is a second component and that is that he selected as his running mate paul ryan. paul ryan, someone who is passionate about deconstructing comments of the 47%. >> has romney's campaign done a good job of responding to the criticism? >> he first comes out and says i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. but then as he's tried to move away from it, he's ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing health care reform in massachusetts, which simply reinforced that if that's empathy, then barack obama -- >> do you think the president used 47% to box him in? >> i think so but he's got to be careful. obama doesn't want 47%, he wants 51, 52, 53. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. >> the first day or two it was like the waco with the david koresh situation where they're trying to smoke him out. >> todd akin's own campaign is comparing him to a cult leader. >> this is somebody who makes michelm michele bachmann look like a hippie. brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to
's challenging. one thing to watch also is in the interview show with paul ryan, paul ryan was asked how does your budget plan add up? he says i'm not really sure i have time to explain that right now. you better believe they will press romney about it on wednesday. that's the kind of thing they have to avoid. >> karen, as alice brought up, foreign policy. that being a hot topic issue in the headlines and also for very good reason. americans want to know what president obama's foreign policy is going for. because of situations that seem to be forever in the lexicon of our conversation. certainly in afghanistan with what we've seen happening there. so karen, with that being said, can the president sharpen what he wants to say knowing that's going to be a vulnerable spot for him. mitt romney wants to prove that americans go through strength. and president obama may not have that philosophy. >> peace through strength is a nice slogan, but the president has unfortunately the burden of knowing the facts on the ground and knowing what is possible and what is not possible. foreign policy is complica
what congressman paul ryan did in the interview with fox news said, i don't have time to finish this out. good grief, people will get bored. i hear people say play up your natural weapons you have, and we know the president has his national weapons and so does mitt romney. what do you see as a high point or something effective for both of them. what are the president's natural weapons going in? >> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to have a priv
the bush part, he hasn't wanted to explain them too much. in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i would imagine the obama administration, or obama's going to go through tonight, you really only need to know two numbers about romney's tax plan, one is $480 billion. that's the cost of it in 2015, just to pick one year. and the other is $251 billion. that's the amount that will go to very wealthy families. now, mitt romney's promise, his tax plan won't cost a dime on the deficit. so he somehow needs to get $480 billion out of the tax code by closing breaks and loopholes, seems like the mortgage interest deduction, and also that it won't be a tax cut on the rich. so about $250 billion of it needs to come from tax breaks for the rich. the problem for him is that independent analysts have looked at and basically said, when you take into account the tax breaks he's promised he won't touch, like the capital gains tax break, it's basically impossible to make the numbers worse. there's no way to get that many tax breaks from the rich, b
. governor romney is good. i'm just okay. >> and paul ryan played his own version. >> president obama is a gifted speaker. he's been on the national stage for many years. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> but if all candidates are trying to lower expectations, maybe chris christie missed that memo. >> governor romney's going to lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. and i think that's when you're going to see this race really start to tighten and move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. >> i want to bring in dana milbank and matt welsh. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> i suppose we shouldn't be surprised this race to lower expectations. give us your take on the expectations for this debate. >> romney needs something to happen for him. he's had a bad couple of weeks. ever since the 47% comment which i think that be difficult for him. what he needs to do is kind of what obama di
on election day in november. >>> paul ryan, a green bay packers fan from wisconsin, chimed in on the referee ruling that cost his team a win monday night. ryan joked, quote, i half think these refs work part-time for the obama administration in the budget office. >>> mitt romney had kind words for bill clinton yesterday, saying a few nice words from bill clinton can do a lot of good, he said. and he joked that he would wait for his clinton bounce in the polls. >>> and mr. romney's wife, ann, was on the "tonight show" with jay leno talking about his husband's plans for america's future and she explained to jay how she feels about mitt running for president. >> four years ago i made a videotape and on the videotape, i looked in the camera and he said, mitt, this is for you, sweetheart, i'm never doing this again. >> well, jay also asked ann romney if mitt is a good dancer. she replied he's gotten to be a better dancer. and that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> elsewhere, missouri republican congressman todd aiken let the deadline to let the senate race pass yesterday without drop
pelosi talked about mitt romney's decision to pick paul ryan as his running mate and the impact his role could have on the future of medicare. she also told rachael that democrats could take back control of the house. take a listen. >> we have been working very hard to get to a place to put the house in play. we did that by, say, late spring, early summer. but when august 11th, mark that date on your calendar, when ryan was chosen, that made a very big difference because medicare, medicare, medicare, the three most important issues in the campaign, that issue was clarified, focus was on it. we could not lose the debate about medicare because if we do, forget democrats and republicans, medicare is gone. >> don't miss the "the rachel mw show." >>> rebel forces attacked the capital and reported the deadliest day of the civil war there. 340 people are reported to have died in fighting across the country. in damascus, a white van exploded outside a military command center. a skd bomb went off ten minutes later inside the compound and gun battles went on for hours. four guards were killed and
" narrative. sunday paul ryan said it's not in the least bit true that cutting the tax rate by 20% would cut $20 trillion in five years. >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the -- >> the cut in tax rates is lower, by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering the tax rates by broadening the tax rates -- >> let me --. i -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time. it would take me too long go through all of the math. >> that's a quote you're going to hear a lot, i guess from the obama campaign and the president himself. meanwhile the president who's known for being a bit long-winded and can have an hour-long news conference with only eight questions is working to sharpen his responses. quote, we eh had a hard time getting every point across within the time limit. you're trying to make a case to the people, so you have to make sure your answers connect with people. he got some advice from howard dean. >> the president's got to avoid being irritable. hi's got to roll with the punches. mitt is going to be out there, aggress
-acclaimed public speaker with special gifts. as for congressman paul ryan, he's just gushing about the president's skills. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years, he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> forget my running mate. the president's the guy to watch but not everyone agrees. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. i don't know about that. you know, who's going to put the most points on the board. >> you are. no, no, governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> so they are praising each other. but something tells me we won't see too many compliments on that stage tonight. joining me now is rick stengle, editor of "time"'s magazine called, who is telling the truth, the fact war. what does governor romney need to do tonight, in your opinion? >> one of the things he needs to do is to seem presidential. one of the things that folks haven't been talking about is if you go bac
paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up with ryan if the first place. i get it. romney doesn't want to get dragged down by his political mate's push for getting rid of medicare. he acts like ryan has no hold on him, but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two had things worked out, that romney andya
-and-run critique here. a slogan of the week there. his only momentum came when he chose paul ryan and seemed ready to engage in the big stuff -- medicare entitlements, tax reform, national solvency, restructured welfare state. yet he has since retreated to the small and the safe. when you're behind however safe is fatal. even whhis counterpunching has gone miniature. make the case. go large. about a foreign policy in ruins, an archaic 20th century welfare state, the guarantee of 21st century insolvency and an alternate vision of an apologetically assertive america abroad unafraid of fundamental structural change at home. it might just work and it is not too late. mark halperin is it too late? he capable as a candidate to do this after all we've seen over the past five years from mitt romney? or not seen? >> if you watch conservative media, read krauthammer, watch fox or talk privately to any republican politician, it's hard to find anybody, even some people as you all know inside the romney campaign, who think they're doing the right thing now. that they're ontrack to win just by governor romney s
's fair. >> meanwhile, paul ryan debuted a power point presentation over the weekend in florida and has now been using charts on the trail since to hammer the president on the national debt at kent state university last night, the president decided to mock him for it. >> if they go around as they have in ohio with some board behind them with numbers and saying how it's a moral obligation to reduce the deficit, just ask them, well, explain how the numbers work. >> then the president turned his own gaffe into a hit on romney. >> i want to see us export more jobs. export more products. excuse me. i was -- i was channeling my opponent there for a second. >> this morning the big news is from the obama campaign. they are out with a two-minute television ad that to many will look like a campaign closure spot if you will and the campaign believes frankly that for many voters it is the closing days before voting. voters in 30 states are already eligible to vote. this ad is the last thing the campaign wants the people to see before the debates. this ad airs in colorado, florida, iowa, nevada, new
to health care we don't revamp the entire social security system to meet inside restrains that paul ryan thinks works but doesn't work for america. this is real questions on voters' mines and that's changed the dynamic of the election and we're seeing great candidates on our side with that message who are going to win in november. >> and in massachusetts, republican scott brown has apologized for what some of his aides did in appearing on this video where they were mocking elizabeth warren for her native-american heritage. that is apology sufficient and should this be an issue in this campaign? >> certainly it's up to the people of massachusetts to determine that. they have watched this race, they have seen scott brown tell people to take a look at elizabeth warren to determine her heritage, which is frankly offensive to me, people in massachusetts will make that determination. but i will say this. again, we have a race where elizabeth warren is fighting for the values that american families care about, making sure we all have an opportunity that our kids all have access to education, th
with this campaign and particularly in picking paul ryan. peel are very concerned about the future of their medicare and social security being privatized. look at the attack on women's rights. we had an attorney general's naktz commonwealth that essentially closes women's health clinics throughout virginia. those are extreme views, and you'll have reported on what the republican general assembly did in richmond this last year with ultrasound legislation, that's extreme and has people alarmed in virginia. that's why both tim kaine and president obama are enjoying support. >> chairman rand, thanks sop much for your insights on my home state, the commonwealth of virginia. >> welcome. come on back. we'd love to have you in 40 days. it's very exciting. there's a lot going on here. >> i'm not missing the negative ads. that's the one thing. chairman rand, thanks so much. >> romney's focus in virginia seeming to be twofold. military and coal. the state is home to a million servicemen and vets and their families. as for coal, he ran this ad ahead of his victim in virginia. >> obama wages war on coal while we
down. republicans from mitt romney and paul ryan to sarah palin, sean hannity, and rush limbaugh all urged akin to get out of the race after he said that. karl rove's american crossroads super pac pulled their money from him and while talking to donors, rove made this, his think being what akin was doing to the party crystal clear. he said we should sink todd akin. if he's found mysteriously murdered don't look for my whereabouts. that's karl. the national republican senate committee also pulled funds from akin's race. its chairman, john corn of texas, said last weekd just last week, he had a simple answer on their involvement with akin going forward. he told "the hill" newspaper, quote, we're done. well, that was then, this is now. the deadline for akin to remove himself from the ballot has passed, and slowly republicans are rejoining the akin bandwagon, if you can call it that. the national republican senate committee, for example, said yesterday, as with every republican senate candidate, we hope todd akin wins in november, and we will continue to monitor his race as low asly in t
what the relationship of the v.a. funding is to the sequester. i'm not sure he knows that paul ryan voted for that sequester or that at this point wars are the way you make new veterans if he's threatening new wars in iran and syria the way he's been so threatening on those issues. we need this debate. we have problems as a country, not getting the debate from the campaign but maybe next week we will start to. >> and on nbc and msnbc, we've got lester holt and richard engel and teams of correspondents also in the field, so we are going to be having that debate come hell or high water. >> do you feel like those issues can be brought into the campaign with less than 40 days, is there no chance that we're going to get there? >> i think that we have to force the issue, we in the media as well, we have to talk about things other than the polls and horse race and what's on twitter, beyond sort of the social media context -- >> the moment to moment stuff that people are fighting about and get to the policy. >> we also have two senate races that have gone seriously off the tracks. let's tal
small ball for small ball. i had only momentum came when he chose paul ryan and seemed ready to go on the big stuff, a restructured welfare state. yet he has since retreated to the small and safe. when you're behind, safe is fatal. even his counterpunching has gone miniature. >> this reminds me a little of the mccain campaign in 2008. in the days at the end where you felt like the campaign was kind of grasping at every new ornament that it found on the tree. it's being distragted. one week it seems to be libya. the next week it seems to be medicare. the next day it's whether the president has said something about bump in the road. and i think for voters, it's very confusing to have these very short-term responses. in the romney campaign. now of course every campaign has to have a rapid response. but usually that should augment what is the overall strategy. it shouldn't become the strategy. >> they're trying to win each news cycle rather than win the election. >> they've been chasing news cycles. when he was in virginia. he talked about the defense cuts, they're so, that's what dire
in yesterday's paul ryan was grilled about it on of all places fox news. let's watch. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking -- we'll get to -- >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. >> you haven't given me the math. >> yf the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged or ryan on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explain what had cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch ou it's done. here is where you are challenge a guy to come clean, especially when he can't do it. let's watch. >> they ought to have an opportunity to know. what is the kotion of your program? >> i don't have a cost of my program. >> you don't have a cost. >> i'm sorry, i don't have t
's visit in vegas. paul ryan kicks off a bus tour of the buckeye state. >> i was teaching the kids the song on the way over here. >> we screw that up. of course, he's in iowa. not ohio. in an interview, romney was pressed for specifics on his tax plan. after ryan said on fox news on sunday the math would take too long to explain. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $70,000 deduction and can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others. and you can fill that bucket if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll simpson did it. but that's the sort of thing you do with congress. >> so that's the most detail we have heard romney talk about this idea of different buckets and a cap on deductions. but still it's been at nearly every stop in the the last two weeks. romney has had to explain the 47% remark. don't be surprised if we hear a version of this answer when it comes up wednesday night. >> if you could go back to that fundraiser, would you have said it differentl
rattner, to be more specific about his policies, which many argue he hasn't been very specific nor paul ryan. >> he hasn't been very specific. but i think his bigger problem is the first one you said. that he's got to create some sense of connectivity or relationship with the voters. i think that's really his goal as well as what we were talking about in the earlier segment of trying to bring a clear depiction of obama's policies and the fact they haven't done everything they were supposed to. >> john harwood, can he do that in a debate? is the debate the setting? that would be when you're most clenched and concerned about every word that comes out of your mouth. how do you show the things mitt romney needs to communicate to the public? >> it's possible. he's got to play really well. one of the nationals' pitchers got hammered the other night and he said i lost my arm slot. and he was talking about the exact right angle of the ball to the delivery of the plate. mitt romney's got to find precisely the right arm slot. aggression with the right amount of respect for a popular president. he
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